Sunday, March 15, 2015

The Marks Of Healthy Ministry Team

Romans 16:1-16

I commend to you our sister Phoebe, a deacon of the church in Cenchreae (SEHN-kree-ay ). I ask you to receive her in the Lord in a way worthy of his people and to give her any help she may need from you, for she has been the benefactor of many people, including me.
Greet Priscilla and Aquila, my co-workers in Christ Jesus. They risked their lives for me. Not only I but all the churches of the Gentiles are grateful to them.
Greet also the church that meets at their house.
Greet my dear friend Epenetus (a-pen-nee-tus), who was the first convert to Christ in the province of Asia.
Greet Mary, who worked very hard for you.
Greet Andronicus and Junia (dzhou-nih-uhs), my fellow Jews who have been in prison with me. They are outstanding among the apostles, and they were in Christ before I was.
Greet Ampliatus (am-plee-AY-tuhs), my dear friend in the Lord.
Greet Urbanus, our co-worker in Christ, and my dear friend Stachys (STAY-kihs).
10 Greet Apelles (uh - P el - les), whose fidelity to Christ has stood the test.
Greet those who belong to the household of Aristobulus.
11 Greet Herodion, my fellow Jew.
Greet those in the household of Narcissus who are in the Lord.
12 Greet Tryphena and Tryphosa, those women who work hard in the Lord.
Greet my dear friend Persis, another woman who has worked very hard in the Lord.
13 Greet Rufus, chosen in the Lord, and his mother, who has been a mother to me, too.
14 Greet Asyncritus, Phlegon, Hermes, Patrobas, Hermas and the other brothers and sisters with them.
15 Greet Philologus (phil O' log us), Julia, Nereus (NEE-roos) and his sister, and Olympas and all the Lord’s people who are with them.
16 Greet one another with a holy kiss.
All the churches of Christ send greetings.
This is one of the most difficult Bible passages that I’ve ever had to read. There are just so many unfamiliar names that I had to spend an hour just trying to Google for the right pronunciations. And it makes you wonder (doesn’t it?): What is a list of names and greetings like this doing in the Holy Scriptures? And how in the world are we gonna do a sermon, much less a Church Anniversary sermon based on this text?

Truth be told, many of us reading this would be tempted to just skip all that and focus on something more interesting, isn’t it?

Unless of course, you are going to have a baby and would like to choose a biblical name for him or her… if that’s you, today’s passage is very relevant. It’s a treasure chest full of very original and exotic names you can choose from! Tryphosa Tan? Philologus a/l Victor? Sosipater bin Indra? How about that for a name?  

But I guess this is not the main reason why this passage is included in the Bible. Nor is its purpose in the canon just to fill up space. If other name lists in the Bible such as the genealogies of Jesus contain important precious nuggets of truth, I think this list of greetings at the end of Romans deserves our careful attention too.

But how are we going to do this?

Firstly we need to realize that when the Holy Spirit inspired the apostle Paul to write this portion of Scripture, He inspired Paul to write an epistle. By the way, an epistle is not the wife of an apostle. An epistle is basically a letter. It is not just a private letter, so it is not as if we are not intruding into somebody else’ private email.

It is an open letter to be read out in public (perhaps in a congregation as people gather to worship like what we do this morning).

And it is usually at the end of his letters that Paul does something special, something very unique that he doesn’t usually do elsewhere and it’s simply this: Paul talks about himself.
He gets into some personal details.

Of course, he did mention about himself elsewhere but it is usually at the end of his letters that Paul takes time to really ponder and reflect openly about the relationships that matter to him, about his own personal feelings, his friendships, his aspirations and plans for ministry… of what God can do and might do through him… It’s usually here that we get an insider’s look (almost from the back door) into what drives Paul or makes him tick… What frames and shapes his ministry?

Here at the end of Romans, we have a personal insight into the relationships that mean a great deal in his life and ministry.

That’s what we desperately need to hear here at CDPC Puchong on our 5th anniversary.

And there’s a reason for this: All of us gathered here as God’s people this morning are gifted to serve and minister in some capacity as Christ calls us to. It’s hard to get rid of the old idea that pastors/elders are the ones actively doing ministry and the members are the ones receiving the ministry. But that’s not the model that the Bible expresses. The biblical model is for leaders to equip all of God’s people for the works of ministry. The various gifts and abilities Christ has blessed us with are not without purpose: they are meant for something, to make disciples and grow the Body of Christ.

If all of us are doing ministry, then do you know what we need? We need someone like Paul to sit down with us and help shape our ministry and grow our spiritual friendships.

So we are invited this morning to catch a glimpse of Paul’s life, relationships and ministry aspirations and see what we can learn for our own lives, to apply to our own relationships as a church and our ministry aspirations. We are invited this morning to hear him saying to us: “Follow me as I follow Christ”.

That means we need to read Romans not only for its theology. We need to read it for the autobiography as well. We have already read it for the profound truths of the gospel.  Now we need to read it for the life examples, for the personal stories, for the meaningful friendships that grow out of the gospel.

So, what are the relationships that mark and shape a fruitful and healthy ministry team? What kind of friendships grow on fields nourished by the gospel of grace?

In chapter 15, we know that Paul has big plans to preach the gospel in places where Christ is not named. He has a macro-strategy to launch out from Rome and plant churches in cities where no one has gone before. He is like a general who can’t sit still, always restless with the world map laid out before him. He has a huge vision of gospel ministry. Next stop: Spain.  

But here in Chapter 16, we see Paul sending warm greetings to his dear friends in the Lord. He affectionately calls them his fellow workers in Christ. They are his family - notice how he calls these people: sister, brother, household, kinsmen, fellow prisoners, beloved, mother to me. And this is even more remarkable considering the fact that Paul has never been to Rome. Somebody else planted this church. But from these greetings, we get an insider’s look that actually he knew quite a lot of people here. And he knew them personally by name.

There’s a paradox here: Paul is not just a big picture kind of guy, he’s also a “people person” kind of guy. He has a global vision for mission yet he knows that you need to get involved in the personal lives of people in order for ministry to really work. He thinks global, but he acts local. He can see the forest and the trees at the same time.

And that is so rare but that is the mark of a healthy ministry. You need to commit yourself, invest time and energy in people. You dive into the messy details of each other’s lives. Gospel ministry is always enacted in the personal stories of people.  

It is not like signing up for a pyramid scheme. It is not about just downloading accurate information from a podcast. Gospel ministry is profoundly relational. Although it can be very inconvenient, our Lord Jesus did make a personal appearance and dwelt among us. He didn’t just Skype us from heaven.  

So relationships are not just the tools, not just the platform by which you get the real work of ministry done. Spiritual friendships are at the very heart of what ministry is all about.

You think fondly of your “dear friend in the Lord” (verse 7). You write long letters (or emails) to them when you are apart. You miss them. You remember what they have done for you. Look at verse 4: “Priscilla and Aquila: They risked their necks for me.”

And you show your affection to them. In those days and even today in the Middle East, you do that with a kiss (look at verse 16). In our Malaysian context, you might do that with a holy handshake. Never underestimate the significance of greeting each other with a smile and handshake.

Think for a moment  about the relationships you have formed in this church. For some of us, we are just getting to know people. Maybe for the first time, in fact... For others, we have probably known each other for many years. Maybe we have been coming to the same place for worship every Sunday for the past 5 years or perhaps even longer if you came from CDPC Subang. Maybe some of us have known each other for 10 years +.

Whether it is one month or one year or five years or more, when you look back on all the relationships you have built in and through this church, what do you find? What is significant? What is memorable? What is precious and meaningful?

I hope that when I look back, I don’t recall nothing but the quality of donuts, nasi lemak and coffee we shared (though that’s important). I hope it’s not the case that I don’t even know the names of my brothers and sisters whom I have met week in week out for 10 years. And it can easily happen if we don’t think about these things. I certainly hope that our relationships go deeper than “Hi and bye!”

Looking back on these years, I can be grateful for when Grace was hospitalized for high blood pressure, members of the church came and prayed for her. I hope I can recall having meaningful conversations and prayers over meals at each others’ homes. I can think back and remember all the ups and downs we share (especially the ministry leaders) as we stand shoulder to shoulder in laboring for God and His people. Yes, I wanna look back and remember the delicious food that many have prepared for Kopitiam too… but I see beyond the great food to the meticulous love that it represents.

Who can say what will happen to CDPC Puchong in another 5 years or 10 years?

But what I do hope is when we do look back at our relationships, we can say this together:

We are fellow workers in the gospel. We are not just friends, but friends in Christ.
You have been a sister to me. You are an elder brother to me. A mother to me.

That’s the first thing we see: Ministry is relational because God is interested in people.

He is working through his word and by his spirit to adopt sons and daughters into His family.

2) The second thing we need to realize from Paul’s greetings is this: Ministry is about doing things as a community, as a team.

If you remember, Paul is a trained and certified scholar from the Ivy League of his day. He studied law and theology from the best teachers. He can go toe to toe with the best philosophers out there. On top of that, he is authorized as an apostle of Christ. He heals the sick, casts out demons, performs signs and wonders in the name of Jesus. If anyone can pull off ministry all by himself, it’s got to be Paul.

But you can see here that Paul is not a one-man show. He’s not a lone ranger. He serves alongside a great company of friends and “fellow workers” in the Lord.

Who are these people? We begin with a sister Phoebe who was a deaconess of the church. Paul commended her to the church in Rome, asking them to receive her “in the Lord” in a way worthy of His people. Why? For she has been a benefactor, a patron to many people including Paul himself. She may have been a wealthy lady who supported the ministry.  

Then we find a husband and wife teaching team in Priscilla and Aquila. They worked as tent makers and servants of the gospel together with Paul in Ephesus. They even instructed Apollos a well known teacher in the early church (Acts 18).

There is possibility of another man and woman team in Andronicus and Junia, who had suffered alongside Paul in prison. We can’t be 100% sure whether the name Junia was male or female though. And the text could either be understood as “they were esteemed outstanding by the apostles” or “they were outstanding amongst the apostles”. In any case, if the second meaning is correct, that probably means that they were outstanding frontier missionaries or church planters in the early church.

We also see a number of women that Paul singled out for praise. He thinks highly of these hard workers in service of the Lord: Mary (v6), Tryphena, Tryphosa and Persis (in verse 12). Far from being a male chauvinist, Paul’s ministry team is actually very gender inclusive. That’s quite counter cultural in a male-dominated society.

Apart from gender, we can see that the Roman church is also racially inclusive. Paul mentioned some of the names as fellow Jewish Christians (see verse 7 and 11). And many others on his list were Gentile Christians. That’s why the church in Rome had to deal with the issue of eating ‘halal’ food, observing festivals and things like that.

Last but not least, you notice in verse 5, 14 and 15 that there are groups of people that meet in different homes. Greet so-and-so and the saints who were with them. Greet so and so and the church that meets at their house. So the church in Rome was really several churches that meet in various homes. See verse 23: Paul himself was enjoying the hospitality of Gaius who opened up his home not only for him, but the whole church.

Do you see a beautiful picture of saints working in networks, in partnerships, in collaboration? This list of seemingly mundane greetings actually give us a clue into what makes Paul’s ministry tick: He works in diverse, inclusive teams. He journeys with the fellowship of the King.   

What can we learn from that?

From Day 1 (March 21, 2010), CDPC Puchong is a collaboration of males and females of different ethnicities centered on Christ.

Like the Roman church, we can be thankful for all the women here who work very hard in the Lord – you know who you are, behind the scenes, teaching the children, decorating the church premises, running the library, English program or cleaning up after kopitiam. I can easily identify a dozen ladies who invested the lion’s share of creativity, energy, time and passion in these areas. But I’ve also learnt the ladies here prefer to remain low key: in fact I’d get scolded if I single them out for praise. Because they would say: Why didn’t you also mention so-and-so? If you mention me, you should mention everybody-lar. Anyway, ladies… we know who you are and thank you for your labor of love.  

Like the Roman church, CDPC Puchong has a great opportunity to be welcoming so that Malaysians of all ethnic groups can worship and work together with brothers and sisters from Egypt, Korea, Indonesia, the United States and beyond. We work at being racially inclusive and gender inclusive because of the gospel. There are practical reasons for that but fundamentally, the reason is theological.

In Christ there is neither male nor female, Jew nor Gentiles. In Christ, there is neither bumiputra or non-bumiputra. By our love, by serving and suffering together, we show what it means to be the only community in the world in which Christ has broken down all dividing walls.

We can also be thankful for risk-taking patrons, benefactors and partners who contributed generously to the founding of this church and the children’s library.

Let’s consider how doing ministry as a community looks like. Our priorities in CDPC are: Reach out, making disciples, growing leaders who in turn make disciples. I was like Frodo: I know I must be on this mission, to go to Mordor, but I don’t know the way. And this husband and wife team was among the first to say to me: We will help you! We believe in this vision.

They have been such an encouragement to many young disciples, reaching out to students. We would put a high level idea on the board, and every one just jumps on it, adds to it or subtracts from it. And the final result ends up so beautiful that none of us working alone would have done it.

Sure, we don’t always see eye to eye on all issues but we share a common vision to see gospel growth in people. We have come to trust in their wisdom, commitment and love for the church. So we are free to speak openly and frankly to sharpen each other or give push backs or fine tune our decisions.  It’s so beautiful. If you are available, come and sit in and observe one of these meetings. I often leave afterwards feeling so energized and hopeful because we reflect and act in community.

So a special thank you, Tom and Janet. You are our very own version of “Priscilla and Aquila”.

On behalf of all the ministry leaders, I want to say to this: We can’t do this alone. We need help to build this community. We need you in the game. Come talk to me. Talk to any of the leaders – “David, I may not be the best player, but I want to be in the game. Where can I plug in?”

If you think greetings and name lists at the end of Paul’s letters are boring, think twice. They actually reveal lots about what matters most in his ministry, about the character of the church that speaks powerfully to our own ministry, and the ethos of our church today. We need to follow him as he follows Christ as we celebrate the 5th anniversary of CDPC Puchong.

Let us pray. 


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Pastor Jean Lim, Murder, Murder, Murder...becareful: Warning Stay away.

Warning about Pastor Jean Lim ( Glory Place)- Don't let her murder your loved ones! Stop it!
So far she murder over 300 people over asking them to stop taking medication and dying, saying that dying young will sent them to heaven. She has cause hundreds or even thousand of young children to become motherless, fatherless or orphans. She has done so much of evil go hundreds of thousands or even millions of peoples life. Pastor Jean Lim, is "Muderer", but everyone. Stay away. Her intentions have always been evil to everyone.

She has ruin so many lives and families. Also she don't allow children to go to schools and get education, so they are hopeless and green when they leave the cult(Jean Lim Ministry). She don't have money to sent chilren to school, so she made it clear that education is demonic. In addition, she manipulate and influence all her members to be faithful to her by stop working and staying with her in her new Heavenly Jerusalem. This is a total cult and the police must stop her.

WARNING TO ALL - PLEASE SHARE THIS NEWS and post every where. Investigate her and bring her to jail. She ask everyone not to take medical and never see doctor, then everyone die. Young children, women, people below 40s die, she say it is good because if you die early is better. Such a witch and wicked bastard!

Pastor Jean Lim is a witch and the devil, her ministry is so demonic.

From Samuel Tan, for those people whose lives and have been ruin and lost their spouse or children through cause by Pastor Jean Lim please contact us at for us to make an official complaint to NECF and the authorities.

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Pastor Jean Lim Murders 25 Singaporean killing them by not giving them food, medicine, choking to death, compressing oxgyen from the building, stealing their money and propertly. Please share this post and make this rival to the Singaporean Authories.. please if your watching we need help. We need your help...S.O. S.

Some reading this is not a joke, serious, this is an example of cult movement unnoticed that had brought to many murders to innocent children, through using religion to us people to die younger and to murder as much people as possible.

Please l can be the witness, please contact my email or facebook account now to discuss. l want to be the withness of their mass murder and killings of 25 Singaporean from the year of 2009-2013 contact me, Justin Anad Raj at

Please spread this news to all the MPs in Singapore ask the Singaporean police to do something. There are too many dead Singaporean bodies in the compound of Jean Lims ( Glory Place, where she buried all the dead bodies, there are over 300 people living in the mountain in Glory Place, Mantin, Negeri Sembilan Malaysia.

S.O.S. someone reading this please help, they are about to kill me already, the already have jammed the door, and stop the oxygen suppy to my room. Please help.. ..Tell my family l love them, tell my children to bring justice to my life....

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Justin And Raj: My 5 years experiance at Pastor Jean Lim's Ministry

1. My name is Justin Anad Raj, l served in Jean Lim's Ministry for over 5 years. It was a challenging experiance during my first year they paid me only RM300 for full-time employement under Semarak Revival Centre Berhad but they never pay me any EPF, which is against the Malaysian Goverment regulations where a full-time employee should be paid EPF.

2.They burned all my education and my degree certificates, all the full-time staff there are instructed to burn all their certificates. What a Cult! They asked me to repent for going to School and gaining education from the world. They said l have done a grace crime and my parents also need to repent that l went to school and received education of the world. Hundrends of children staying in Pastor Jean Lim's Minstry were not sent to school and were not given a chance to go school(This is against the Malaysian Law to sent children to school).

3. When we serve there, not only she has robed our educationa and career but she also stole all our money and also inheritances such as houses and money in our bank. She advised to surrender everything to her ministry and mission work. Only all the rich people has special privillages in the church and she murder them all robe all their money and properties. She has a tendency to make every child an orphan and robe their parents inheritance.

Anonymous said...

Justin And Raj: My 5 years experiance at Pastor Jean Lim's Ministry

4. Many of my friends like Johan, Abigail and Ishak, when they comes out from this cult group, they are totally ruin in debts and also have to start their life fresh again. We were considered as holy ones while serving once we left we are considered as unclean and they ex-communicate with us and disallow us to vist them again because we are considered now darkness already and no longer holy and we will face distructions. We have to start from stretch again from the beginning, we have to accept any low paying jobs outside and we have to work and come up in life, which is so struggling and chanllengieg. We also regreat all the deceptions and lies that Pastor Jean Lim has taught us to teach people.

5. I am a witness to over 50 murders done by Jean Lim and the pastors in the church, that's why they also try to kill me when l told them l want to resign from the church. I am a witness to over 120 Malaysian death, 25 Singaporean death, 7 China death and 5 Bruneian death most of their murder were done through punishment, stopping and oppressing the victims. For instace not giving them food, medicine, choking to death, compressing oxgyen from the building. When they die their bodies are buried in at the Hills of Glory Place, Mantin, Negeri Sembilan. Before each victims die they will try to withdrawal all their savings and try to sell all their properties.

6. My conscious is right when l writing my testimony and believe that there are people are there can reach out to other members who have left and offer support. I am one of the few witness who have wrote down all the mass murder and killing which was happening in Glory Place, Mantin, Negeri Sembilan, l have all the proves and evidences and records in my house in Puchong. They sent other members to come to my house to pursuade me not to make a police reports, they also offered RM100, 000 not make a police report. So l fled back to Singapore with all the proves and evidences, while is Johor Bahru a white truck stoped and tried to arrest me, l run for my life and currently in hiding. l am a solid withness for the murder of over 25 Singaporeans and l need protection from the Singaporean Police.

7. They are trying to kill me, please help S.O.S, l need your help, if you found this message any where you might be please request help from police, l am hiding now in the forest, there are so many people from their ministry with guns and parang chasing after me for l am a witness of over 25 singaporean being murdered in GP, Mantin, Negeri Sembilan. If anything happen to me, tell my wife, how much l love her and tell my children to continue this fight against this mass murderer, manipulator and mind control..

Pastor Jean Lim came to Murder, Steal and Destroy....

Anonymous said...

All My Family Members were killed and Murdered by Pastor Jean Lim and Staff at Glory Place(GP), Negeri Sembilan.

I am Rebecca and l am 43 years old this year. In 2010 and 2012 our family visited pastor Jean Lim, we thought they were sincere and has good intention for our family. However, we were wrong! I bought my husband to Jean Lim Ministry he was suffering from cough and sore throat due to lung infection in 2012, we went to be Pastor Jean Lim in Glory Place(GP), Mantin, Negeri Sembilan. They told us to attend the for church service as they said my husband needs cleansing and deliverance. They suggested we go to Glory Place(Their so called Heavenly and holy place(GP), we went there and stay in mountain. It is believe that over 45 people were murdered and buried in the mountain, as this cult believes that those who die there will go straight to heave. They confined by husband into a small dark room, stop the food supply and water supply(fasting) to his room, tie him with chain on a chair, they never allow him to get medical supplies or meet a doctor. When his condition became worst, they demanded me withdrawal all our money from our savings from the bank, as they promised Jesus will heal my husband, they threatened us if we never pay RM250,000 my husband will die, so l withdrawal and sold our house and pay the church RM250, 000. And if we never make the payment to the church, my husband will be killed by them and they will sent back his body to Singapore. However, Jesus did not heal my husband. His condition became worsen and when he was about to die because they never allow him to eat, drink, take medicine, and seek a doctor for more then 14 days. As you know that cult oppose taking any medicine as they believe it is from the devil.
When my husband condition and situation became worst, they choked him and close his face with a plastic bags to make sure no oxygen enter his nose and try to stop him from breathing. Pastor Jean Lim and all the pastors there did it, l saw it with my eyes and l am witness to the death of my husband and children. They why they also try to kill me? They hate witnesses, who will eventually testify about their crimes to the public (Which l am doing now) They say the faster he die he will go heaven more quickly, the more better for him, as there will be no more suffering. So he died, the first few days, l was told to tell lies to the police about the location of his death and the events leading to his death. I was shaking in shock so l submit to their request to tell lies to the police and launch a police report which story has been 80-90 % altered and was not true. As a matter of fact, Pastor Jean Lim and all the pastors there have killed my husband in a dark room, by stop giving him food and water, refuse to allow him medical supply or seek a doctor. When he becomes weaker and worse in condition, they chocked him and cover his head with plastic bags on his face to stop the oxygen supply to let him die faster( Jean Lim has a mental problem, she always want people to die fast and the younger the more better) as they told me he is going to heaven and it is better than staying in this world which is full or sicknesses and sufferings.I have 3 children and kids all were killed by them when they felt ill, they were refuse medical treatment and they were chocked to death by Pastor Jean Lim and all the pastors there with a towel and plastic bag. They advice us not to make police report about their deaths as our three children are under the age of 12 years old.

To what extend this ministry glorify Jesus? l lost everything, every blessings l have Jean Lim and all the pastors there brought harm and murder to them all. I am in grief, l need help.....My testimony is just a surface of a grave mass murder done by Pastor Jean Lim and all the Pastors in SRC and GP, if your viewing my message you can help by forwarding this messages to all the authorities e.g. police, MPs, other churches and also warn other people about (Pastor Jean Lim).

Rebecca Tan Siew Wong

Anonymous said...

I would like to confirm and verify the above messages and testimony above it 100% accurate and true, that's pastor Jean Lim strategy to trick people of their lives savings and murder them in the name of a a religion "Christianity", this is one example of Jim Jones( Peoples Temple) in Jonestown, U. S. where( Mass suicide and Killings (918 people were murdered, including 276 children ).

Pastor Jean Lim ( Jesus Heals Ministries) is a Malaysian Story, she is heading towards that records of her mass murder strategy and steal properties from the victims to build her empire. She based on all the evidences and proves she and her ministry will be known as the greatest or super mass murder in South-East Asia.

This is all because religion people in Malaysia are deceived they and become fools to cult movement such as Pastor Jean Lim Ministries ( Semarak Revival Centre, Glory Place, Mantin and Jesus Heals Ministry. All the money used for the expansion of her ministry was stolen money from the deceased in which they murder in the name of the expansion of Christianity among Muslims and in Malaysia.

I Pastor Moses, went to Glory Place, Mantin, Negeri Sembilan, l stayed one month there. I felt so miserable and uncomfortable there during my stay. The people there are all brain washed not to sent their children to school, they are brain washed that every single sickness is caused by the devil and they were also brain washed not to go and serve the world or what a normal person do is go to work. This cult is clear that working outside in the society is a grave sin and they are brain washed not to do so. I see people dying and killing taking place, there is smell of dead body every where. Every night when l sleep there there are so many noises, creams and killings taking place, they say you can see angels and vision while staying there but l see murder and killing taking place. Some sick people were denied food and water( Which is called fasting in Christianity), they were forced to fast for 40 days or more, until their sickness get worse and they die. When they are very sick and vulnerable, Pastor Jean Lim and all the pastors in SRC and GP will beat them with a wood until they faint and then they to choke them and before doing so, they have called up their loved ones demanding money e.g. RM50K. to RM100K, when payment is made. They will murder them and sent back their dead bodies, if their love ones never claim their dead bodies, they will be buried on the hills of Mantin.

This is greatest mass murder using religion to deceive thousands people, this cult movement has being going on since 1998, they always hide and produce dead bodies, when you sent them your children or your spouse. After staying there for 30 days, l fled Glory Place, Mantin and the scene, so l am writing just to tell you my experiences.

Why people can be so cuckoo and support an old lady like Pastor Jean Lim who has murdered the maximum people compared to other people. You see how religion can be used as a tool to deceive, steal, cheat and murder others.

I would appreciate if your reading this comments, l would appreciate if you can also post in your blogs or other blogs you know to make this viral to all Malaysian Christians to not be a prey to Pastor Jean Lim and all her associates in Malaysia. Please alert and careful of a mass murder in Nilai, Mantin, Glory Place Singapore. I already warn you, be careful, don't let your loved ones be murder and killed there. Warning, they usually murder and bury dead bodies, they will back the dead body of your children or spouse. (Warning!!!!) Stay Alert all the time against this cult movement.

Pastor Moses
Former Visitor Glory Place (Mantin), Negeri Sembilan_ Malaysia.